Thursday, April 19, 2012

help code/criticize "Ijtihad" addon designed to gauge ones knowledge of encounters

This is a call to help code both an addon and website. Requiring basic knowledge of value submit and returns and in the form of a questionaire - checkbox-esque - type style. This information is being made public to gain support, inspire others to join, start their own project,and open criticism, i dont care about my "intellectual copyright"

Idea behind project Ijtihad (pronounced Ish-ti-haad, an Islamic word, loosely translated in english as a combination of Knowledge and Understanding in practice). I have become quite tired of horrible pugs, now that epics have reached horrible players who were carried to get their achievement you can no longer trust a raid who's requirements are "whisper stats and link achi." I know feel as if the only raids i will go to are those that implement a "natural selection" rule, which is, consistent low dps, consistent fail, etc... you will be removed from the group - this requires everyone who joins to consistently play good. In pugs, i dont care about your feelings, i care about how long this is going to take.

Basic Concept:

This addon and website (i'll explain the purpose of the website later) will help to allow the raid leader to now gauge the specific players knowledge of the encounter (beginning with 10 and 25 man than instituting heroic encounters) specific to their class role. Upon completion of this "test" it will display your grade. Before the raid leader gives this test he will enter in a few values: his number percent that he considers passing and a verification code (which can be used for many things, i.e. autoinvite phrase) that will be returned to anyone who passes the test.

The Idea behind making a website as well is, since initially as many of us in the scripting scene know, everyone doesnt have your *amazing* addon, so while our concepts and theory are great, in practice it doesnt always work how we like it to. However, everyone who plays WoW has an internet connection and thus a web browser. Coding a site for a questionairre//test and a few value submits and returns is easy, they even have websites where you can make one with a template. Having a webform, besides being amazing easy to produce, will broaden your user base and allow for those who dont have the addon realise its usefulness.

Specifics

The test will be class and spec specific, so if you are a lets say, a priest specced one of the many healing specs, the test that would be given for an encounter, lets use malygos as an example, would have a question that would look like "During vortex, which spells do you use" the values available to choose from would include: Renew, greater heal, lesser heal, Circle of Healing, etc..." If the user selected anything that has a cast time they would be given a negative value, if they selected Circle of healing, they would be given a positive value, for questions that have more than one correct answer multiple values are submitted.

You can use this example and apply it to all classes and specs and every encounter. Tests can have different difficulties having harder or easier class questions, i.e. a hard rogue question would be "In Naxx, check every mob listed below that is able to be stunned" or as simple as "When Anub'arak cast locust swarm, where do you run."

Compiling correct knowledge for these questions is as simple as going to WoW wiki, personal-guildies-friend knowledge, etc...

Layout:

Preference: Tabbed headings, check boxes for answers. I'm not sure how a organized a tree would be for this.

addon vitality:

As long as WoW designs encounters that are considered hard and require knowledge, there will be a need for something like this. So there are many possibilities.



Contact me, either through here, or my emai: TheMachiavelli @ Gmail . Com

I have done alot of research to see if there is anything like this, i have not found anything, if you know otherwise, let me know please please please!

Go ahead and criticize away.|||Quote:










Go ahead and criticize away.




Certainly, getting to know if someone has ever raided, knows the fights, etc., is tough.

But, I am not certain when you would think the raid leader would administer the test? If right before a raid, it will slow a raid down. If long before a raid, people will just look up the right answers.

Also, there are many raiders who can't name the boss, but can tell you what to do at the "throws out puddles of plague goop" or whatever boss.

Finally, with the raids as easy as they are at the moment, it is almost easy enough just to kick dummys....er....less qualified players..... and replace them.|||Quote:




As long as WoW designs encounters that are considered hard and require knowledge, there will be a need for something like this




So there's no need for it in WotLK?

Okay so to be constructive;

The weakness you were talking about (not everyone having the addon) doesnt actually exist. You could simply ask the questions via tells.|||If your addon ever get popular, somebody will make website with all the answers ready.

Besides, those boss names and mob names are constructed in a manner that's impossible to remember them (believe me i'm not the only one of the problem) there will be lots of people who know what to do and when - but wouldn't be able to make connections with the names.

Also knowing how the fight is working and being able to execute it well are different things. I know how the "dance" fight, where you have to run between burst of green lava bursts, works, i understand the concept perfectly, but i only managed to survive entire fight once.

You might say i suck, which is true in case of this fight. Knowing the fight perfectly does not help me much.|||Also, someone who knows how to play their class properly is generally valuable, regardless of whether they specifically "know the fight". You give as an example a question for a healer about what spell to use during the vortex with Malygos. Well, I don't specifically know about Malygos, but as a healing priest, I know that when lots of people are dropping quickly, I use Circle of Healing or lots of Renews.

Remember: fight-specific things can be taught easily. Just send them to the WoWwiki page to read about it, or spend five minutes telling them about it. Playing your class properly, however, is not something that you can teach someone in five minutes.

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